"If everyone else is doing it, what's the point?"
This is the quote that stuck with me from this delightful, weird, rambly conversation with Marc Martel. Let me introduce you to Marc, in case you don't know him already.
Or, maybe I should have given you this one first: an imagining of how Pavarotti and Freddie Mercury would have done a duet.
Incredible, right? Marc and I have known one another for fifteen years, back when we were both graduating college. He was playing with the band Downhere, who had just been signed to a major Christian label. I was working in a church doing youth ministry. Now he is pulling double-duty with his first solo album, Impersonator (it's SO GOOD) and being the frontman for the Queen Extravaganza, which means he channels Freddie Mercury for half the year. Exciting life, right?
Marc has navigated the music industry in the new, digital age, which set the stage for changes in the book world as we have moved to digital there as well. I loved talking to him about promotion, his passion, and....the Backstreet Boys. No, really. We talk about the Backstreet Boys.
I hope you love this interview and feel inspired to find your weird way of embracing your passion. I think we all dream of making our passions a working reality, and that's just what Marc has done and is doing.
For more on Marc, please check out his site for tour dates, and you can also snag his album Impersonator from iTunes!
And if you LOVE the new music on the podcast as much as I do, you can check out more about her and her music on her site.
Kevin Kaiser is hard to describe. People always say that behind every great man there is a great woman (which is a phrase I actually hate- a much longer discussion), but I think Kevin is proof that behind every great success, there are other hidden people and work that you may never see. Kevin is one of those people, a true creative and also marketing strategist who has been a ghostwriter and a person behind the people. He truly lives in that place where creativity and business intersect.
Some great posts from Kevin:
Get Low (about Wu Wei, which he talks about in the interview)
5 Things Star Wars Taught Me about Creativity and Life
3 Essentials to Building Influence
"The artist's primary responsibility is to be the champion for the work." <- THIS. I feel like that quote sums up the whole of platform-building and some of the audience growth.
"Writer's block doesn't really exist. Writer's block is a story we tell ourselves when we are afraid." Mind=blown.
StorySellerU (will be opening again in the fall)
Flow by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi
Advice for Starting Your Own Mastermind Group from Cliff Ravenscraft of the Podcast Answerman
Transcending Fear in the Creative Process from Atlantic Monthly
One of the things Kevin said that I loved was that to aim really low. Aim to get 10 new followers this week, not 100. Be methodical and work for a slow build. Overnight successes don't last. True successes have done the hidden work that other people don't see.
Kevin and I talked about deadlines and stress. For some (like me), a deadline can make you totally freeze. For other people, that stress gives a hyper focused flow. How do YOU react to deadlines?